posted by [identity profile] kaet.livejournal.com at 08:09am on 30/05/2004
It's to do with from where the Holy Spirit proceeds in the Nicean creed, which is the Christian, um, manifesto, declaration, thingy written in the second century AD. The bible says that the Spirit proceeds from the father, but doesn't explicitly say that it proceeds from the son, though there are clear implications of such. So Augustine in the third century (I think) added "and the son" to the from where the spirit proceeds (though not subordiante from either, and sharing intent, etc). The eastern orthodox church didn't like that so they didn't add it. For some reason, during the great schism in the eleventh century, when the west and east fell out, this became of great importance (as far as I can tell they just wanted to fall out, and because this was a difference it became of great importance). Some people even say it was originally added (or not added) in order for churches not to have complete agreement in creed, to serve some kind of nefarious church-political end.

Though it's been a long time (well over a decade!) since I studied such stuff.
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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 08:16am on 30/05/2004
Roughly, yes. Theologically speaking, the difference is roughly thus:

The Eastern Church considers that the Father begets the Son, and breathes the Spirit. They consider the individuality of each of the three persons of the Trinity.

The Western Church considers that the Father begets the Son, and that both of these breathe the Spirit. This position really arises from giving the Unity of the Godhead primacy.
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posted by [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com at 11:56am on 30/05/2004
There's a Harry Turtledove story, set in a world where a Christian Mohammed revitalized the Byzantine Empire, where the main character, who at the time is a Byzantine spy in France, accidentally blows his cover by unthinkingly omitting the filioque.
 
posted by [identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com at 02:37pm on 30/05/2004
(as far as I can tell they just wanted to fall out, and because this was a difference it became of great importance).

*grin* If it hadn't been different then they could have had a big argument about what 'proceeds' means instead ;-)

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