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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 10:01pm on 08/11/2005 under
I went along to the Goth Eucharist at St Edward King and Martyr this evening. I arrived early (or it started late, I'm not sure which), which gave me a little time to take in the setting - the side-aisle of the church, with a cross in tea-lights on the floor (not all of which were lit), other candles standing round, a brazier of incense on the altar, and evanescence on the CD player. The service followed the usual order of the eucharist, although some bits were, I think, specially written. There were two pauses for a secular track - once early on before confession (the Gethsemane scene from Jesus Christ Superstar), and during the distribution (well, not exactly a pause, more like an accompanyment) ("Nothing Else Matters"). Candles were lit during the service, and it definitely got "lighter" during the service - the music after the service was something Irish folk-y I didn't recognise.

I'm a traditionalist when it comes to liturgy, so I went along a little apprehensively. I think, on the whole, it worked - I was feeling a bit down before the service (for reasons I won't go into), and felt better afterwards. I think it needs a little more confidence, though - the Taize chanting petered out, and the celebrant lit all the candles, where the service sheet called for the congregation to do some of them. I'm not sure it's sure exactly how it relates to goths (and any non-goths who might attend), though, either, but maybe that's because I'm not really a goth. I think I'd use more incense - maybe have a thurifer?

Father Andrew's reservations aside, it's an interesting service, and well worth investigating, if you're around on appropriate tuesdays. I know some people who want to go, but can't during term, so maybe it'll continue a week or two outside term...
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posted by [identity profile] the-lady-lily.livejournal.com at 10:40pm on 08/11/2005
Father Andrew's reservations aside...

Would it be terribly indiscreet in a public forum to enquire what said reservations are?

I have my own opinions on the subject, but am always interested in hearing other people's.
 
posted by [identity profile] yrieithydd.livejournal.com at 09:47am on 09/11/2005
Would it be terribly indiscreet in a public forum to enquire what said reservations are?

Well, as I've already mentioned them in passing probably not.

Essentially, he is unsure about `special interest' services as it were. He is worried that the result will be people who only go the Goth Eucharist and have no exposure to Christians outside that event. Part of being Christian is interacting with people who are not like us. It is a problem with `gathered congregations' in general. Of course, LSM is not immune from criticism on these grounds, because we also gather people from outside the parish (myself included). Mmm, I hope that's an accurate presentation of his views, the end is more my reflections on the issue he raised.
 
posted by [identity profile] the-lady-lily.livejournal.com at 02:17pm on 09/11/2005
That's a very helpful explanation, thank you.
 
posted by [identity profile] eyeless-ingaza.livejournal.com at 01:57am on 09/11/2005
Hey, glad it made you feel better. Strangely it does always cheer me up. It's interesting to hear your thoughts on it. I think it usually works better than it did today. Not sure what happened with the chant, I think maybe Fraser couldn't see the music? Normally the congregation do light the candles, but I guess that didn't happen cos we were a bit depleted today. Personally I think it was a bit long, and I think Marcus will probably cut it down a bit for next time.
The music at the end was loreen mckennitt- the lady of shalott, which was a bit of a random choice (Louise and I were sorting out the music so it was bit random, but I like that one :P) Anyway, nice to see you there:)

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