posted by (anonymous) at 09:26am on 30/03/2007
Perhaps we can best help people by asking them 'how?'!

I've been thinking about this, together with this (http://arnhem.livejournal.com/275970.html) comment of [livejournal.com profile] arnhem's. There appears to me to be a very fine line between 'knowing what help we need and asking friends to inconvenience themselves to support us' and 'gratuitously manipulating people to make them do what we want them to do against their will'.

Maybe this is the time when we're most accutely condemned of 'crying wolf' - symptomatic of a huge loss of trust and a breakdown in communication.

Can anyone reflect on ways we might stay on (or get back to) the right side of the line?
 
posted by (anonymous) at 02:28pm on 30/03/2007
Make sure one doesn't get into situations where there's no parachute if things go wrong? Not sure how one avoids that, or goes about creating parachutes if one doesn't have one, though :-/ Lack of parachute is currently causing me huge amounts of stress; even though I'm not sure that I'm going to need one, I need that knowledge that there is one.

I don't suppose my feelings about suicide, or the value of my continued existence, are very common though, as I can often regard it quite dispassionately. Which is why I might well say "if X, then I'll kill myself" – there are some situations which, should they materialise, I wouldn't want to live through. This is a fact, although I can see how it can be read as a manipulation. I don't know whether it would be better or worse not to provide someone with the information, as I can't tell how wedded they are to the course of action that might cause such a situation. If there's a chance that they're fairly noncomittal or wishy-washy about it, I think they deserve the information; unfortunately one can't assign probabilities to people's emotions/feelings so sometimes one takes a chance and gets it wrong.

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