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posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 01:06pm on 13/03/2008
Brad disagrees, and he should know.

[Also, Web adverts generally are a dubious proposition - as Nielsen observes, users are generally completely oblivious to them, to the point that a classic UI mistake is to make a UI element look like a banner ad.

Also, LJ said "no ads, ever", and it is distressing that the new owners do not plan to honour what was left of that promise.

Also, the spin is ridiculous, and new-LJ should at the very least be willing to tell the truth.]
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posted by [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com at 01:09pm on 13/03/2008
Well, Brad is probably in a better place to actually know what the financial situation is, so I'll take that as much more likely to be true than my previous speculation.

If users were oblivious to the ads would they complain so much about them?
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posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 01:47pm on 13/03/2008
"oblivious" in the "do not read" sense not "do not see" sense, clearly.
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posted by [identity profile] pizza.maircrosoft.com at 07:18pm on 13/03/2008
doesn't anyone except IE users have scripts to filter these things off their browser view these days?
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posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 01:23am on 14/03/2008
Thee and me do, but we're a minority of not-MSIE, and MSIE users may well still be a majority (I'm loathe to conclude anything based on User-Agent).

If the majority were using ABP or similar we'd see more of an arms race between the junk peddlers and the anti-ad tools than there is.
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posted by [identity profile] tigerfort.livejournal.com at 11:38am on 14/03/2008
I am (generally) oblivious to ads in the sense that if you close the window I

a) probably won't know what the ads were for
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b) may even not have noticed the presence of still-image adverts

But I don't like animated ads, because flashing boxes in the corner of my vision are distracting and make it harder to focus on the things I actually want to see/read.

I note that LJ have now come as close as marketing-speak ever does to saying "maybe we did this wrong".
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posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 12:22pm on 14/03/2008
Yes, although I'm less than convinced by "we're sorry we span, here's a fresh dose of spin which means 'suck it up'."
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posted by [identity profile] tigerfort.livejournal.com at 06:20pm on 14/03/2008
Well, yes.
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