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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 04:03pm on 20/08/2008
I seem to have developed hayfever over the last few years. I first started taking loratadine (a non-sedating antihistamine) in 2003, when living in Girton. This is rather annoying, as typically hayfever declines during ones 20s!

This year seems to be particularly bad. I've been taking the loratadine for what must be pushing a couple of months, and it's working less well (notwithstanding the time I got a cold on top of it, which really wasn't fun). I'm pretty sneezy for the hour or so after getting up, and have a good sneeze when I get home, too, and my nose runs a bit during the day. It seems to be making me wheezy when I exercise, too, which is not good. If I stop taking the loratadine, things are much worse - I have to stop 4 or 5 times on the way to work, for example.

I don't know what I'm allergic too, which doesn't help with management. I can say with some certainty that Nefyn doesn't have any of it (I didn't need the antihistamine at the weekend); I'm not sure if the bad patch I have each morning is just due to phlegm and suchlike building up overnight, or that there's something in or near home that I'm allergic too. It doesn't seem to get better or worse on wet or dry days, either.

AIUI, the NHS won't want to investigate unless it goes on for a year, or causes more serious breathing problems (or if loratadine stops keeping things at least plausibly under control). It's a bit annoying.
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posted by [identity profile] samholloway.livejournal.com at 03:28pm on 20/08/2008
Interesting - I've been very similar this year.

I've had mild asthma since childhood; however, it declined in my teens and now I very rarely have to take an inhaler (on average, just once a month or so!) I also get a mild spell of hayfever usually throughout June, but it's not normally bad enough to warrant taking antihistamines. (When I do, I take ceterizine hydrowotsit.)

However, the last few weeks, I've been very wheezy, phlegmy and sneezy through the night and - exactly like you - the hour after waking up. (I ended up getting up early just to get out of bed.)

I took antihistamines in the night, which helped a little but didn't abate it, so I assumed it was a cold. (You know the feeling when you try to stop your body from responding to a cold - it's not pleasant at all.) But it didn't really go away. Then I noticed I was better when I stayed away from home, so I stripped the bed, let it all air, gave the bedroom a good dust and hoover. That improved things, but it still wasn't ideal.

Last weekend, we went away to a nice hotel, and I had no problems at all. I've also been OK since I got back. Fingers crossed...

My theory is the warm, damp weather encouraged dust mites or similar to breed. Now it's cooled down a bit, and the house was empty for a while, I think they've died off. You might want to give your bedroom a really good airing and see if you have similar success.
 
posted by [identity profile] hilarityallen.livejournal.com at 03:33pm on 20/08/2008
If it makes you wheezy, your GP may prescribe an inhaler, but Proper Investigation tends to be started when you're Quite Ill.
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posted by [identity profile] sigisgrim.livejournal.com at 03:37pm on 20/08/2008
See if you can beg, borrow or steal an asthma inhaler from somebody. Taking that morning and night for a while might make a difference. I would also look into taking samholloway's advice.
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posted by [personal profile] hooloovoo_42 at 03:41pm on 20/08/2008
I know a lot of people who either seemed to have developed hayfever type problems recently, or whose allergies seem to have become more prominent and don't seem to respond so well to the regular medications. There could be any number of explanations, but it's all due to Global Warming and is a sign of The End of The World as We Know It.
 
posted by [identity profile] woodpijn.livejournal.com at 03:46pm on 20/08/2008
This is rather annoying, as typically hayfever declines during ones 20s!
I never had it as a child, and then got it in my 20s. I have a middle-aged friend who got over it in her 20s and has started getting it again recently.

My (very speculative) guess is that the prevailing type of pollen changes in roughly 20-year cycles, and people are allergic to one kind but not another, so they see changes in their hayfever-sufferer status in roughly 20-year cycles.

Give it another decade and a half, and you and I will be fine again :/
 
posted by [identity profile] the-alchemist.livejournal.com at 04:11pm on 20/08/2008
I got it in my 20s too and so did lots of other people I know.
 
posted by [identity profile] woodpijn.livejournal.com at 04:39pm on 20/08/2008
Are they all about our age?

Maybe it's more specific than I thought: maybe the pollen got objectively worse in about 2002, and previously got objectively better in about 1980. Maybe the received wisdom that "hay fever declines in your 20s" comes from older people, who were in their 20s in about 1980.
 
posted by [identity profile] didiusjulianus.livejournal.com at 06:13pm on 28/08/2008
When I got hayfever for the 2nd time, after it had previously abated after a childhood needing some meds for it (but nowhere near as bad as other family members'), the doctor mentioned 7 year cycles (in people, for allergies such as this, not for pollens). Not far off 7 years later, the problem had largely gone again. (It seemed to have been triggered again by pregnancy in my case).

When I find I do need an antihistamine (such as when they are taking in the oil seed rape nearby) for a week or two, I find taking it at bedtime works best.
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posted by [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com at 03:56pm on 20/08/2008
Interesting. I'd say I've had my best year ever for hayfever.
 
posted by [identity profile] sphyg.livejournal.com at 09:11am on 21/08/2008
I was going to say the same, but then my cow-orker commented on how I'd been sneezing lots recently. If you're allergic to horse chestnuts, they're all dying of bleeding canker anyway...
 
posted by [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com at 04:09pm on 20/08/2008
Have you tried fexofenadine? It's what all the cool kids take as antihistamines these days. And how about montelukast? It's a leukotriene inhibitor that AIUI is now also used for hayfever.

If you are getting noticably out of breath when you exercise, then it's time to see the GP anyway.

AIUI, the NHS won't want to investigate unless it goes on for a year, or causes more serious breathing problems
On the plus side, at least they will now investigate it just for hayfever. It's well worth pursuing it, but be prepared to be persistent.
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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 04:39pm on 20/08/2008
That's a POM, so would require quackery.
 
posted by [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com at 05:00pm on 20/08/2008
That's a POM, so would require quackery.

So go see a nurse then and they'll give you a prescription. I'd say it was pretty sure you won't be able to get it investigated if you won't even go to see someone about it :-).

It seems to be making me wheezy when I exercise, too, which is not good. If I stop taking the loratadine, things are much worse - I have to stop 4 or 5 times on the way to work, for example.

Just tell them that if you're worried about going in saying "Woe is me, for I am sneezing". Untreated lung problems are a very bad idea.
 
posted by [identity profile] tienelle.livejournal.com at 05:53pm on 20/08/2008
FWIW, I found a beconase (beclometasone) nasal spray (in addition to loratadine) massively improved my wheezing and sneezing. It's available over the counter for less than a prescription charge. You haven't mentioned itchy eyes, but I've also found opticrom (sodium cromoglicate) eyedrops quite helpful for reducing those, FWIW.
 
posted by [identity profile] arnhem.livejournal.com at 06:58pm on 20/08/2008
I've found Rhinodron quite useful.

It's at worst harmless, and at best makes the nasal mucosa less dry, irritated and encrusted. This makes it a useful counter to air-conditioning woes. It won't do anything to counter bronchial/laryngeal (asthma) problems, but may give your system a fighting chance of getting on top of the nasal (hayfever) issues ...

Ignore the borderline homeopathic/anthroposophic baggage it's sometimes lumbered with.
 
posted by [identity profile] muuranker.livejournal.com at 07:28pm on 20/08/2008
You can tell I'm obsessive/blinkered, because I read 'type 1 hypersensitivity' and thought it was (injected) insulin hypersensitivity you were talking about.

I don't have bad hayfever, but I've noticed that this late summer has been rather bad.

Me, hayfever kicked in big style early 40s, after asthma in late 30s, after massive allergic reaction to an anti-bacterial agent or adhesive. Before that, I had a dribbly nose when in the presence of gorse flowering. So I move to the largest lowland heath in Europe, natch!

 
posted by [identity profile] didiusjulianus.livejournal.com at 06:15pm on 28/08/2008
My partner's has been quite bad this summer too. Maybe it's also a bad year.
 
posted by [identity profile] meglorien.livejournal.com at 11:42am on 21/08/2008
Not very useful advice, but you could come and stay with us for a while ;-) I've had hay-fever type thing since I was a child. After a very bad bout, I was taken to see an allergy specialist, who told me I was allergic to all sorts of things. It was very sad. We had several birds at the time and we had to give them all away, and some of them I had seen cracking their eggs and one of them was fed with my doll's spoon because he was so small his brothers got all the food.

Anyway, since I came to Norway I haven't had anything, except for the very occasional light crisis. But when I visited Portugal and Ireland earlier on, I had it very very badly, so I'd say this is a bad year for that type of thing, as other people I knew also complained about it.

If you think you are allergic to dust-mites, there is a spray to kill them off your mattress (although you get nowhere to sleep for a few nights...) When I was a child, we were told the sun killed them off to, so my mother was to air my mattress every week, making sure I was well away from the house when she did so.
 
posted by [identity profile] romancinger.livejournal.com at 03:54pm on 21/08/2008
My other half has been worse this year, too. I suspect some new type of pollen - in your case, it could also be due to you moving to the industrial Midlands, with associated pollution.

I got hayfever for the first time when I was 33. I've since traced it to (I think) the first major planting of Rapeseed in the vicinity. Since then, I've got used to it, so there is hope! (My family find Beconase spray very good.
 
posted by [identity profile] mirabehn.livejournal.com at 10:04am on 22/08/2008
AIUI, [livejournal.com profile] mostly_a_cat, [livejournal.com profile] mirrorshard and [livejournal.com profile] kate_qp all developed hayfever in their twenties, and all seem to have been having a particularly bad year this year.

Even I've been getting itchy eyes and stuff, and I officially have only had hayfever one year (the summer I took my A levels, so 1996). I think maybe the humidity is making everything worse this summer? Or lack of breeze, generally.

(FWIW, I also developed my kiwi fruit allergy over the last 3-4 years.)

Possibly getting an inhaler would be a good thing for you. I might also suggest it to one or both of my boys, actually...

Also, *hugs*.
Edited Date: 2008-08-22 10:05 am (UTC)

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