posted by [identity profile] robert-jones.livejournal.com at 05:42pm on 22/10/2008
Obviously if you learn something in confidence, you shouldn't pass it on. Sometimes people explicitly say, "This is in confidence", "Just between ourselves", etc. Sometimes it's obvious from the context or subject matter that the information must have been intended to be confidential. On the other hand, if I say something competely anodyne to you or in your presence, I wouldn't mind your passing it on. As usual there's a grey area where there's potential for confusion.

If something is said at a "private party" with, say, 25 people present, the context would suggest to me that a confidence probably wasn't intended, in the absence of any contrary indication. On the other hand, if it was an intimate party, I would expect things to be treated more confidentially.

That still leaves the question of people who overhear remarks by accident (obviously intentionally eavesdropping is bad). They seem to me to be in a slightly different position from the people who are party to the conversation, who have consented to receive the confidence, either expressly or implicitly. In your example, Charlie might be a stranger to you, but very close to Bob. If what you've said was important to Bob (rather than just tittle-tattle), it seems difficult to argue that the course of moral perfection is for Charlie to keep it under his hat.

Editted to correct a couple of typos and to add that sometimes people say foolish things when they're drunk. It's probably best not to repeat such things to those not present.
Edited Date: 2008-10-22 05:48 pm (UTC)
 
posted by [identity profile] lavendersparkle.livejournal.com at 06:20pm on 22/10/2008
sometimes people say foolish things when they're drunk. It's probably best not to repeat such things to those not present.

I'm not so sure. I often find that someone's behaviour whilst drunk is a good indicator of their real character. I recall someone I was at college with who everyone else seemed to think was great but I always got the impression was a tosser. One evening whilst drunk he came out with a bigoted tirade about how women, jews and homosexuals get an advantage in the labour market. I always wished that more people had known that he was a bigoted tosser, particularly when he ran for JCR president.
 
posted by [identity profile] curig.livejournal.com at 07:02pm on 22/10/2008
In vino veritas, as they say...
 
posted by [identity profile] robert-jones.livejournal.com at 07:29pm on 22/10/2008
I'm not sure either! I agree that people don't usually say wholly uncharacteristic things when drunk. On the other hand, character is not merely about what we believe, but what we choose to say. There is a class of statements which are true, but which are best left unsaid. It's those statements, rather than the revealing of objectionable views, which I had in mind. We can't unsay things, of course, and that's our fault for getting so drunk that we lost our usual sense of what is socially appropriate, but it is still best to not to repeat the thing which would have been better unsaid.

I'm not actually sure that the drunkness is the key here. I have a feeling that people are (and should be allowed to be) unguarded when the port is being passed around by candlelight, and it's not quite fair to expose the things they say to examination by the light of day. Perhaps it's just romanticism on my part though.

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