What car-drivers who shout at me about cycle paths are trying to achieve. This morning's was pretty typical. As he overtook (as part of a group, who had been delayed more by a learner making a hash of pulling off at the lights), he shouted "...fucking cycle path", and made some sort of gesture. The manner of these imprecations suggests that "there's a shared-use off-road cycle path here; this cyclist obviously doesn't know about it, so I'll let him know to speed his journey" is not the primary motivation - and in any case, at commuter o'clock, the cyclists are mostly regulars who will be well aware of the path in question. Do these drivers really think that they're going to persuade me by force of their argument that I'd be better off on the cycle-path?[2] I doubt it; similarly, they don't seem interested in stopping for a chat on the relative merits of cycling on the road or the shared-use path (the variation "what's wrong with the cycle path" seems largely rhetorical).
Which leaves me with the options that they're trying to intimidate the pesky cyclists off their roads, or just want to make the cyclists' morning miserable. Why does anyone think this is a reasonable way to behave?[1] Cyclists are vulnerable road-users, and overly-aggressive driving can be quite alarming.
Some mornings I'm moved to attempt a pithy response, although I've yet to find a good one. "On yer bike" is the currently-preferred one, as "roads are for bikes too" lacks punch.
brrm suggests "fucking planet", and I have sometimes resorted to suggesting by gesture that the driver concerned enjoys their own company a little too much (usually only for drivers that have overtaken dangerously whilst hurling abuse).
[1] I'm aware of road-rage, yes.
[2] For the record, cycling on the road is entirely legal, and what patchy research there is suggests that shared-use paths are more hazardous for both cyclists and pedestrians than cycling on the road
Which leaves me with the options that they're trying to intimidate the pesky cyclists off their roads, or just want to make the cyclists' morning miserable. Why does anyone think this is a reasonable way to behave?[1] Cyclists are vulnerable road-users, and overly-aggressive driving can be quite alarming.
Some mornings I'm moved to attempt a pithy response, although I've yet to find a good one. "On yer bike" is the currently-preferred one, as "roads are for bikes too" lacks punch.
[1] I'm aware of road-rage, yes.
[2] For the record, cycling on the road is entirely legal, and what patchy research there is suggests that shared-use paths are more hazardous for both cyclists and pedestrians than cycling on the road
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Firstly, it was a single carriage way road with the national speed limit and a high volume of traffic goes in both directions. Secondly, the shared-use path was practically never used by pedestrians, in fact I can't remember seeing a single instance of it being used by a pedestrian; also there weren't any driveways or other side-roads that interrupted it. Thirdly, there were a number of cyclists who insisted on riding in such a way that it was both difficult and dangerous to overtake them: either two-abreast or several of them close together. There were a number of other cyclists who did use the provided shared-use path. Interestingly, those who insisted on using the road were the "professional" cyclists.
All that said there is absolutely no excuse for being rude to fellow road users.
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It's a very useful skill to learn, as a driver, to relax and not let this make you feel aggressive.
I find it helps to calculate how few minutes this slows me down, even over quite long stretches of road.
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Now that's a rare beast! I can't remember when I last saw one of those.
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I think I need to make the observation that at no time was I rude to the cyclists I referred to. Nor did I overtake them dangerously, or in an intimidating way. All I did was think (paraphrasing) "oh bugger it's those cyclists again".
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And certainly I don't cycle as fast on a raised pavement as I do on the road, even in the absence of any driveways, turnings or other users. Plus as others have said the surface is often not as well-maintained, and may be icy or muddy, since they're not swept clean by the action of car tyres and they're not usually gritted.
I don't expect drivers to always be aware of all these considerations, but if their only reaction to annoyance is as mild as yours then that's fair enough. Often you'll find drivers shouting and driving in an intimidating manner because they've decided you should be on the path, and I hate that, as often it's the only thing which stops the road being safe to cycle on.
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My annoyance at that type of thing is normally restricted to grumbling in the car or ranting afterwards. There is utterly no point in shouting at the cyclist, however, satisfying it might feel at the time. And as for driving in an intimidating manner, that's illegal.
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Riding close together is an effective way for a group to go faster; riding two abreast is an effective way to stop people squeezing past you dangerously.
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this is particularly annoying on the narrow road out of the village which is barely wide enough for two cars - no matter where i cycle, they need to overtake .. but i get beeped at if i'm not in the gutter.
it's a very wide road where it's safe to pass a cyclist without crossing the central line, particularly at speed.
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I do feel some sympathy for drivers who have to put up with going up hill at <10mph, but not very *much* because after all *I* am having to put up with going up the hill at <10mph *and* I'm doing hard work *and* car drivers are in their nice heated/air-conned metal boxes whilst I'm in the nasty weather... (on such journeys I tend to try to pull over and stop if I spot a large queue forming behind me but I view that as a courtesy and not something drivers ought to expect).
Personally I would never dream of driving on such a road at 60mph (although I don't drive much I do have a licence and have driven on such roads) whatever the speed limit says. I remember being very irritated as a driver by other drivers who thought they could take such roads at 60 and objected to waiting behind me whilst I did 40.
The shared-use path is invariably (for many reasons) slower than cycling on the road. The "professional" cyclists tend to want to go rather faster than your average "out for a bit of air" cyclist.
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I quite agree.
The example I cited was pretty much flat, though I didn't mention it.
Actually, there is a requirement not to . I understand that there has been a change to the law where if there is a queue of eight or more vehicles behind you who wish and could go faster then you must allow them to pass at the earliest opportunity.
I did read a report of somebody on the A1 somewhere north of Newcastle who was booked by the police for impeding the free flow of traffic on a single carriageway stretch who was travelling at 60MPH because they were actively preventing other vehicles from passing them. Personally I think that was rather excessive.
I don't disagree about the shared path usually being slower, but the one I cited had exactly the same interruptions as the road did. At the time I was travelling everybody was commuting, both the car drivers and the cyclists, both pro and am. I have seen examples of pro-cyclists using that shared path at least as quickly as those on the roads.
If you want to look at the stretch of road / shared path I'm talking about it is the A449 at the north of Telford between Shawbirch and Hortonwood.
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Ah, but what counts as the "earliest opportunity" on a bike? Am I required to get muddy feet? or may I wait until there is a good place to stand off the road for instance. Also when going up hill stopping (well, starting again) is pain :-)
I've not met that bit of road; all the cycle facilities 'round here are really crappy so my experience is squewed I guess.
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Telford did spend quite a lot of money putting lots of cycleways around the town. One could get from most places to most other places by bike. I never ended up getting a bike (for various reasons) so I never tested them, but they were supposed to be good.
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Cambridge has expensive cycle farcilities; almost none of them are any good, especially for a fast cyclist and especially in poor weather and/or when there are fallen leaves around.
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There's your trouble. When operating heavy machinery, stay calm!
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*nods* This. With a side order, I'd guess, of assumption that if the people who designed the road built a path specifically marked for cycles then surely that must be where cyclists were intended to be, and surely (assuming the road designers thought everything through carefully as is their job) there's a reason for that.
I can't help but feel some sympathy. If there's a specifically marked cycle path which it turns out that it's better if cyclists don't use, I find it hard to blame everyday road-users for finding that state of affairs unexpected, counterintuitive and difficult to believe. Surely the primary blame should lie with whoever built a cycle path which was more dangerous than not using it, or with whoever hasn't come and changed the road markings after the research showed they were a bad idea after all? (Assuming, that is, that the research is unambiguous and generally accepted.) It doesn't excuse the rudeness, of course, but it makes it easy to understand the frustration which gives rise to the rudeness.
As for what the drivers are trying to achieve, I would naturally assume that they're primarily giving vent to that frustration, and perhaps also hoping that the combined social opprobrium of their collective yelling might persuade you to do what they see as the right thing. (You might see that as the same as "intimidate the pesky cyclists off their roads", but I think I'd reserve "intimidate" for intent to make you feel physically threatened, whereas I'd guess that at least some of them merely intend to make you feel disapproved of, and it's just that in this situation that has to be done at shouting volume.)
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That's a good joke :-).
I do have some sympathy for anyone trying to do research, because how would they know what proportion of accidents were never reported? Even serious injuries*, which would affect the KSI statistics and really *ought* to be reported.
*Which don't actually need to be that serious to count as a KSI, e.g. a cracked rib or broken collarbone. But still bad enough that the last thing you want to do is to faff around reporting it :-).
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Cyclists on a shared use path do not have the right of way. They therefore need to concentrate more on traffic when approaching side roads. Trying to pay attention to pedestrians, other cyclists, and vehicle traffic with right of way is just too many things to look out for at once, and vehicle traffic furthermore does not expect traffic from the cycle paths.
It's not science, but it does make practical sense.
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I have seen a suggestion of giving the car a sharp whack on the roof as it / you go by, which is meant be loud enough to annoy the driver without damaging the car.
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There also much slower (because you have to slow down for all of the above), but maybe car drivers think that's not important.
I only ever hit cars if I think they've really not seen me and are about to side-swipe me - otherwise it's too dangerous, I think.
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On another occasion I whacked the rear side window of a car which jumped the lights on a pedestrian crossing while I was still on the side of the road.
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Not the most measured, thoughtful and communicative response I could have made, but I was quite upset and less practiced in vengeance then. These days I tend to write down van registration marks on my hand and report them later to authorities or employers; revenge is a dish best served cold by someone in uniform.
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I'd not recommend this to anyone who isn't reasonably confident of their ability to handle situations in which a driver goes completely psycho apeshit at them.
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These days, if cycling (rare for me now :( ) it might be the following: it's a mouthful but "Section 5 public Order Act" (unless its section 4 - one of them anyway and the sod isn't likely going to know) is pithy I think its to do with causing fear, alarm, or distress, in other people.
Analogy time with doctor science
That was rhetorical, but I realise that in actual fact, I do exactly the same thing as you describe under the right circumstances, and it's probably worth writing out when that seems to be.
Dr Science: ...aaaaaand now! Analogy time with doctor science!
Audience: Yaaaaay!
Dr S: Imagine you have a friend, and whenever you go somewhere together, he always climbs in the window instead of the door. When you ask him, he says doors are unhealthy and eventually lead to aggragroititis.
You're annoyed at this, and every time say "Just use the door!" In fact, you know perfectly well why he doesn't, but because that reason was so unconvincing to you, and because even taking it the slightest bit seriously is a tremendous inconvenience to you, you just keep "forgetting" it, and then his autorefenestration always seems like a bizarre one-off aberration that he picked on that morning solely to annoy you.
So in this analogy, if I'm driving, I would always forget the reasons cyclists might be in the road, and treat each instance as if they were just doing something bizarre and dangerous that's so obviously wrong pointing it out in any way ought to be enough. But of course, the reason I don't know might be because (a) I seriously thought about it, and couldn't find any reason for cyclists to use the road (b) it's fairly obvious, but I'm driving to work, not thinking, so I didn't bother to look to see if the cycleway actually WAS usable (c) it's been pointed out to me repeatedly why cyclists might use the road, but because I wasn't convinced at the time, I always "forget" to take it into account when judging cyclists' actions.
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As for your response to mouthy car-drivers, why don't you make a placard to wear that explains your position? (It would take a bit of working out to do so in few enough words, but I'm sure you could do so...)
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I vary considerably as to whether or not I use cycle paths. Sometimes according to how I'm feeling (like on my old route to work I'd use the path when I was tired and not up to quick cycling) but more generally on how useful the path is. My current route to work includes quite a lot of split paths, one stretch along a dual carriageway which is up and down (it feels like a bridge but it doesn't seem to go over anything) with roundabouts at both ends which connects to an off road path I use in the morning. I can go at speed on this path though I do have to mind read at the roundabouts as most cars don't understand signalling. However, in the evening I tend to chose the road route not the off road path at which point I do the first roundabout on road because that's easier than the mind read, but then onto the path for the uphill stretch and left turn at the end (which could be better designed). At the end of my route I use the split path because it avoids 3 sets of traffic lights so my speed is better. Similarly in the evening, I use the path to get back as it avoids 4 sets of lights one of which takes an age to change and quite a bit of lateral movement (path is on the right in that direction).
In Cambridge, I use the split path from Trumpington to Cambridge (and bus lane back) but stay on road on Milton Road (except when my lights were failing). I had the interesting experience one Sunday morning of a posse of serious looking cyclists passing the end of Ansty Way as I turned out of it (so they were ahead). They stayed on road (partly I suspect as there were 4 of them) but I in fact overtook them because of the traffic lights. I can pelt down that path and there's only a couple of junctions and they're very minor. Milton Road otoh is a nightmare because there are so many side streets and the surface isn't nice. Also, the traffic is such that often you can be doing about traffic speed.
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