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So, the answers to the booze poll, according to this website. A pint of beer contains 182 calories, 250ml of red wine contains 167 calories, and 70ml of Tia Maria contains 210 calories, making the right order Tia Maria > Beer > Wine.

I looked the numbers up after a discussion with

atreic, and we were a bit surprised by this, hence the poll.

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Well Tia Maria is rather sickly, and 70ml of it is rather a lot for once glass, so I'm not ALL that surprised. Less sticky and also non-creamy liqueurs and spirits are generally less I think unless I have that all wrong. Which is possible esp in my current state.

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Yeah, Tia Maria seems like the perfect perfect storm of high-calorie liquor, sweet and creamy. According to that site, 35ml of gin, whisky or vodka is 72 calories, which seems right.

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1) There are brands of beer advertised on TV here purely on the grounds of their calorific content. This puzzles me, since it has never been my first thought on buying a pint of beer.

2) Why are we still using calories and not joules, anyway?

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1) err, quite. How strange. On the flip side, the bottles I have downstairs don't have a calorie count on them at all.

2) pass; I don't generally consider the energy contents of food at all, so I may just be out of date.

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OK, with nutrition we have the stupid calories/kcal situation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calories), but I've often been in situations where I have to translate kcal/mol and kJ/mol. It seems that ordinary chemists studying ordinary chemical reactions like kJ/mol, that biochemists studying protein folding prefer kcal/mol, and that supramolecular chemists studying the formation of intermolecular interactions between small molecules (kind of halfway between the two fields, conceptually) tend to chose randomly. I think I prefered kJ/mol, but I knew of people publishing lots on very similar systems who published in kcal/mol.

Oh, that's fun. I've just looked at my thesis, I personally have been using kJ/mol, but the graphs that the ITC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isothermal_Titration_Calorimetry) software plotted used kcal/mol. Fun fun fun.

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Except of course if you only have 50ml doubles (which are still standard everywhere I've been drinking recently) your double tia maria is only 150 calories instead, and hence better than the other two.

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I don't drink spirits out and about that much, but the 35ml measures seem popular round here. Also, when I make

atreic a Tia Maria and diet coke, I think I'm quite generous ;-)

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I have a jigger at home, and actually use it.

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I own two(!), but they don't see a lot of action, unless I'm making cocktails.

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We have a shot measure, and use it, but it's 35ml!

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And NB of course as I said in the other post diet plans tend to recommend drinking *spirits* and Tia Maria is a *liqueur*, which being generally sweeter tend to have more calories.

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Hmmm, the website looks deeply suspect. All of the calories in Tia Maria coming from the alcohol - I don't think so...

That said, I'm prepared to believe that per unit of alcohol the order is more or less correct (whisky or gin would be even better per unit), and that alcohol being a bit less than 100 per unit.

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Am I correct in assuming that for similar quantities of spirits rather than ghastly liqueurs mostly made of corn syrup the answer would be Beer > Wine > (f'rex) Whisky ?

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Yes :)

Well, I'm pretty sure anyway.

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I don't trust that website, but it suggests that 70ml of Whisky would be O(150) calories. Not that I drink whisky by the 70m!

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Have you tried adding a layer of double cream to Tia Maria? It fountains up through the cream.

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No. I shall remember to experiment on

atreic's drink at some point in the future :)

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Hold on, Tia Maria is *less dense* than double cream???

*boggle*

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We were alerted to this by a letter in New Scientist some ten years ago, asking why it happened; I don't recall what (if any) answer was given. We can confirm that it works, but we haven't tried it with any other alcohol, or with other sorts of cream.

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That website seems to have a very lax attitude to listing units, specifying sane quantities, or mentioning strengths of generic drinks. Since even common beers are likely to be anywhere between 3 and 6% (and they say "Scotch Whiskey") I just wouldn't trust it.

(Though it's probably within an order of magnitude.)

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It seems to be saying that the red wine they've chosen for the analysis has 9.6% alcohol, which seems somewhat below average (in my non-expert opinion). If they'd chosen a strong (14%) one then the answer would have been 245 instead of 168 which turns the ordering on its head.

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That's definitely pathetic cheap £1 in a plastic bottle semi-fizzy (because it's badly made) white territory. 12-13.5 is the normal range.

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