This is especially the case going into Downing Street, and I would rather go round the other 3 sides of the square and make it a left turn than do that right turn.
Oh yes, *that* turn. Made even more joyous by having a tiny window to cross into a very narrow space and all of the pedestrians just stepping out into your path. Most of whom do not like it if you say "excuse me please" repeatedly at them. It doesn't get much better after that given the typical number of obstacles and people stepping out and cars turning out :-(.
And a helpfully placed traffic island right where you want to swerve into when Mr Shopper leaps off the pavement without looking :/ I wish people who design roads would ask some actual cyclists, just for once.
fwiw, I've sometimes had a much better experience by going the 'wrong' side of the traffic island (very slowly and cautiously obviously) . Probably illegal, but gives everyone a lot more room. Most of the time though I go on the correct side and just give way to the pedestrian stream.
I saw quite a lot of people doing that recently when there were some roadworks there. Seemed a lot more sensible. Not having that island there would seem even better :-).
After poking around at a few photos of the area, I've realised why the traffic island absolutely has to be there; to be somewhere to put the no-entry sign :-S.
The layout of the blue cycle lane sign and the two no-entry signs has to be like that for reasons of legal pedantry which I'd feel really sad for going into in any more detail.
Ah, yes. I've read cam.transport enough that I can probably hazard a guess as to the sort of legal pedantry and know well enough not to ask in someone else's journal :-).
Sadly when that junction was re-done the new island was placed too far left: giving drivers lots of room, but making the lane for cyclists very narrow at that point, and certainly narrower than it used to be. I don't know if this was planned, or if it was an error on the part of the contractors doing the work, either way I don't think we'll see it fixed any time soon.
It's a nuisance even turning left into there, never mind turning right.
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Oh yes, *that* turn. Made even more joyous by having a tiny window to cross into a very narrow space and all of the pedestrians just stepping out into your path. Most of whom do not like it if you say "excuse me please" repeatedly at them. It doesn't get much better after that given the typical number of obstacles and people stepping out and cars turning out :-(.
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The layout of the blue cycle lane sign and the two no-entry signs has to be like that for reasons of legal pedantry which I'd feel really sad for going into in any more detail.
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Sadly when that junction was re-done the new island was placed too far left: giving drivers lots of room, but making the lane for cyclists very narrow at that point, and certainly narrower than it used to be. I don't know if this was planned, or if it was an error on the part of the contractors doing the work, either way I don't think we'll see it fixed any time soon.
It's a nuisance even turning left into there, never mind turning right.