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posted by [identity profile] compilerbitch.livejournal.com at 02:31pm on 15/07/2009
It's not an issue that's confined to Christianity, though it's less prevalent in the pagan community. It is, however, along with it's kissing cousin, the church's attitude toward transsexuality, a good part of why I'm not actually a Christian.
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posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 02:49pm on 15/07/2009
This sort of thing always strikes me as remarkable. Surely whether you are a Christian or not depends on whether you suppose God exists, Jesus was his son, Jesus was resurrected, etc.? If those are answered "no", attitudes to sexuality are irrelevant to whether or not one is a Christian; if they are answered "yes", attitudes to sexuality merely determine how miserable being a Christian is going to be.
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posted by [identity profile] wildeabandon.livejournal.com at 02:55pm on 15/07/2009
I can't speak for [livejournal.com profile] compilerbitch, but for me it has to do with limited self-awareness. The realisation that I was happy to disagree with or find arguments around the bits of scripture that would make my life uncomfortable was an indication that my belief in the teachigns of Christianity was actually more a belief-in-belief, and as such should be abandoned.
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posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 03:02pm on 15/07/2009
Well, I can well suppose that disagreeing with the church might lead one to examine the underlying assumption that God exists, etc; but it still seems to me that after that process, one isn't not-a-Christian because of the teaching on sexuality. One is not-a-Christian because one now supposes God doesn't exist.

This may merely be chopping language logic, though...
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posted by [identity profile] meirion.livejournal.com at 11:51pm on 15/07/2009
Fr Andrew would have a much easier life if I were willing to disagree with or find arguments around the bits of scripture that make my life almost untenable. He has far less trouble accepting me as I am than I do.
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posted by [identity profile] compilerbitch.livejournal.com at 03:17pm on 15/07/2009
It was the dichotomy between my own take on Christianity as a child and that of the people around me that blew the fuse. It wasn't me not believing in the Christian god or Jesus that was the issue, it was that I couldn't see myself as evil just for being born the way I was (I was clear about being trans pretty much as far back as I can remember), but that I knew perfectly well that I would be seen as evil by the people around me if I gave them the slightest inkling about what was really going on with me.

I flipped between some value of Christian, rabid atheism and agnosticism for many years until eventually settling on a flavour of paganism that happens to work for me. As for where I'm at now, that's complicated, but whilst I have respect for Christians and Christianity, it doesn't speak for or to me. Yod hey vav hey is not one of mine, nor am I one of his, but I don't hate him for that. I do have some considerable disdain for the institutional homo- and transphobia adopted by many Christian sects, however.
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posted by [identity profile] kerrypolka.livejournal.com at 04:10pm on 15/07/2009
I was a Christian for two decades and am now converting to Judaism, and the main reason for the switch was the way in which the religions engage with the text. I did not believe Jesus of Nazareth was literally the son of god-thing-whatever when I was a practicing Christian, but I tried to model my life on the things he preached.
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