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posted by [personal profile] simont at 07:45pm on 15/07/2009
Presumably the CofE in particular must at least have revised that one to "can't do it except in cases of desertion, sexual immorality, or Henry VIII"?
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posted by [identity profile] lavendersparkle.livejournal.com at 08:25pm on 15/07/2009
I common historical fallacy.

Henry VIII did not divorce anyone. Two of his marriages were annulled. The first annulment was on the grounds that a marriage to one's brother's wife was not allowed and the second on grounds of non-consummation. The papacy at the time were quite happy to hand out annulments to the aristocracy but military conflicts at the time meant that the Pope couldn't in the case of Henry's first marriage.
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posted by [identity profile] mirabehn.livejournal.com at 09:52pm on 15/07/2009
It's actually even more fun, since I believe that three of his marriages were anulled. His marriage to Anne Boleyn was annulled before she was executed, on the grounds that he'd had sex with her sister Mary before they married. Which is, I assume why it was possible to believe that *both* Mary I and Elizabeth I were illegitimate, rather than it being an either/or matter.
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posted by [identity profile] ptc24.livejournal.com at 10:01pm on 15/07/2009
To be pendantic, four marriages were annulled; the fact that two of these were overshadowed by the executions that followed means that this is often overlooked.
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posted by [identity profile] mirabehn.livejournal.com at 10:03pm on 15/07/2009
Was Catherine Howard's as well? I hadn't gathered that. Do you know what the grounds were?
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posted by [identity profile] ptc24.livejournal.com at 06:36am on 16/07/2009
The Wikipedia article on Henry VIII (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII) mentions a previous (informal) engagement on the part of Catherine Howard. However the article is a bit confused - the way it's phrased, it's unclear whether there was an actual annulment or merely some people pointing out that the marriage wasn't proper, and, well, wikipedia, so maybe I'm confused. I definitely remember reading somewhere that there were four annulments, but alas I can't remember where.
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posted by [identity profile] alextfish.livejournal.com at 11:12am on 16/07/2009
I believe the QI Book of General Ignorance states that Henry VIII only had 2 wives, because 4 of the marriages were annulled. It does give its reasoning; anyone visiting our house for Games Evening is welcome to look it up :)
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