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posted by [identity profile] alec-corio.livejournal.com at 12:13am on 16/07/2009
Since those stats were given out by GAFCON, and trumpet their success, high-attendance and representation rate, I'm a bit distrustful of them. Neither GAFCON or the FCA has proved to be very good at providing the press with trustworthy releases. I have found some other GAFCON supporters stats stating that around 200 bishops attended GAFCON. 600 odd attended Lambeth (obviously there was some overlap, and some stayed away).

Apart from anything else, I believe that the Nigerian church calculates its membership on the basis of baptism rather than attendance - odd given that they're is associated with the Fellowship of CONFESSING Anglicans, I think. Also the irregular ordination of bishops and priests by GAFCON members makes me cagey about believing that their bishops represent huge numbers of well-informed, GAFCON-committed local laity.

TEC does have an awful lot of bishops per capita, of course, but I think that GAFCON manages to shout pretty loudly.
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posted by [identity profile] ex-robhu.livejournal.com at 07:45am on 16/07/2009
I don't see any reason to doubt the GAFCON press releases particularly, I haven't seen any consistent lack of trustworthiness in their releases. When GAFCON occurred I followed everything in quite some detail, and the independent (by which I mean by bloggers - i.e. not the GAFCON organisers) numerical analysis was very similar. I would expect the figures to be slightly over-egged because everyone always does that (by choosing the most favourable way of representing stats rather than by just lying about the numbers).

That the Nigerian church calculates on that basis is indeed odd, and it'd be far more useful to know attendence. Nevertheless I think however we might quibble about the exact numbers, we can't say that they're some minor splinter group - they represent a very large number of Anglicans, if not (as seems likely) the majority.
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