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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 12:33pm on 01/10/2010 under ,
Please vote in the poll before checking the correct answer (or viewing the text below the cut)

[Poll #1626278]

This poll was prompted by watching an old QI episode, where it was asserted that 80% of people pick the wrong answer, possibly because of handedness.
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posted by [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com at 11:36am on 01/10/2010
What's the right answer? Darn it, she faces right. I never claimed to be observant.
 
posted by [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com at 11:36am on 01/10/2010
Oh, is this a mirror thing? She is looking to the right of the coin, but if you were the queen, you would be facing left.
 
posted by [identity profile] burkesworks.livejournal.com at 11:42am on 01/10/2010
Wot she says.
 
posted by [identity profile] robert-jones.livejournal.com at 11:49am on 01/10/2010
From her point of view, she's facing forwards, surely?
 
posted by [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com at 09:53am on 04/10/2010
Rachel made this point at greater length, and professed to seriously not understand what the alternatives are. On reflection, unless I hear more from Fry, I'm more and more inclined to the view that she's right. If you're observing a person facing you, or lying on their back, or a portrait of them doing so, their left is your right and vice versa. But a typical profile view is where someone is looking forward and you're looking at their body and head from the side. So, I reiterate my answer that from my point of view she's facing right in profile, and her point of view can't apply (because the way she's looking would have no impact on how she appears on the coin).
 
posted by [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com at 11:53am on 01/10/2010
Agh. I bet that is it, now :) Although I would still prefer to use "facing" to refer to MY left and right. I wondered who would be authoratative on that subject, presumably only some heraldic body (for the "official" usage) and an internet poll (for the "common" usage). FWIW http://www.royalmint.com/Corporate/facts/coins/RoyalPortrait.aspx uses "facing right" but OTOH I don't know who wrote that and if they knew any more about the question than I did.

OTOH, I couldn't actually bring an image to mind. I guessed right, but I think mostly by chance. (The link says successive monarchs are supposed to be shown facing in opposite directions; I don't know if that'll be maintained.)
 
posted by [identity profile] pigwotflies.livejournal.com at 11:57am on 01/10/2010
I am always confused by left and right. Especially left and right of someone else, or an object.
But I did imagine her wrong.
 
posted by [identity profile] kerrypolka.livejournal.com at 12:40pm on 01/10/2010
Agh. I bet that is it, now :) Although I would still prefer to use "facing" to refer to MY left and right

Yes, I agree! I pictured her correctly in my head (facing to the right of the coin) but I'm not sure if that means I answered right!
 
posted by [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com at 12:43pm on 01/10/2010
I'm currently satisfied with my answer, (although think the data will be irretreivably commingled between "which way people think she's facing" and "what they mean by facing"), but I expect Stephen Fry had a plausible sounding explanation of why we should listen to the alternative.

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posted by [personal profile] simont at 12:00pm on 01/10/2010
Oh, hell. Hadn't even occurred to me. FAOD, I interpreted 'facing left' to mean that from my point of view as I look at the coin (the right way up :-), her nose would be on the left side and the back of her head on the right side, so that we'd be viewing her left cheek.

And I voted it, and it appears to be wrong. Mind you, I'm faintly surprised to hear that it's even consistent; if there had been an option for 'in profile, but no consistency of direction between different coins', I'd have picked that one (and still been wrong :-).
 
posted by [identity profile] tigerfort.livejournal.com at 11:27pm on 01/10/2010
What Simon Said :)

(Though I note that we'd have been correct if the question had been about stamps. So maybe I just pay more attention to post than money, or something.)
 
posted by [identity profile] geekette8.livejournal.com at 11:42am on 01/10/2010
I think I was confused with stamps, where she does face to the left.
 
posted by [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com at 01:44pm on 01/10/2010
Me too.
 
posted by [identity profile] alextfish.livejournal.com at 02:19pm on 01/10/2010
Yes, this. For some reason the image of her head facing left on a stamp is much more iconic than that of her on a coin.
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posted by [personal profile] hooloovoo_42 at 04:44pm on 01/10/2010
Probably because we all "look" at stamps, whereas we can count out and hand over coins without really looking at them - and they have 2 sides, so there's a chance of not even seeing that face anyway.
 
posted by [identity profile] imc.livejournal.com at 09:16pm on 01/10/2010
I knew that stamps and coins are the opposite way round from each other, but I couldn't think which was which, darn it.
 
posted by [identity profile] obandsoller.livejournal.com at 11:43am on 01/10/2010
I watched that QI too, but when I try to imagine coins I still think she's facing left.
 
posted by [identity profile] ilanin.livejournal.com at 11:46am on 01/10/2010
Took me a while to find an actual current British coin (the ones with the part-of-crest on the back) to check. I was wondering if she'd been flipped around.
 
posted by [identity profile] olithered.livejournal.com at 11:50am on 01/10/2010
I watched QI and still got it wrong!
 
posted by [identity profile] aiwendel.livejournal.com at 09:21pm on 01/10/2010
I watched QI and would have got it right but didn't want to skew the results.

I remembered as 'opposite to a stamp' (which we look at more) and stamps are left so coins are right. I find it very easy to visualise her on a stamp, and much harder on a coin!
 
posted by [identity profile] makyo.livejournal.com at 11:54am on 01/10/2010
Interesting - I guessed "in profile, facing left" too. Possibly I'm getting confused with stamps.
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posted by [personal profile] hooloovoo_42 at 12:08pm on 01/10/2010
I would speculate that the fact people don't know isn't necessarily down to handedness, more that they don't actually take so much notice and, having just checked both a £1 coin and a first class stamp, she looks a different way on each.

Does the monarch's head always look the same way on coins? I CBA to go and find my box of old 10p/2 shilling pieces to look at.
 
posted by [identity profile] burkesworks.livejournal.com at 12:14pm on 01/10/2010
No. They alternate (the exception to the rule being the ultra-rare Edward VIII coins, because he preferred his left side)
 
posted by [identity profile] ashfae.livejournal.com at 12:08pm on 01/10/2010
Other in my case means, I just saw that QI episode too. =)
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posted by [personal profile] bens_dad at 07:17am on 24/10/2010
ditto
 
posted by [identity profile] mister-jack.livejournal.com at 12:40pm on 01/10/2010
I plead dyslexia.
 
posted by [identity profile] mister-jack.livejournal.com at 03:28pm on 01/10/2010
What extraordinarily even polling.
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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 04:15pm on 01/10/2010
Yes, I was noticing that :)
 
posted by [identity profile] vectorious.livejournal.com at 04:33pm on 01/10/2010
Was this QI inspired?
 
posted by [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com at 04:37pm on 01/10/2010
I watched QI last week, too. ;) (new ep, though).
 
posted by [identity profile] deliberateblank.livejournal.com at 06:43pm on 01/10/2010
[x] Upside-down, facing left
 
posted by [identity profile] sebastian1971.livejournal.com at 12:55pm on 02/10/2010
i presume you mean the current queen as it changes each reign and i have a victorian penny in front of me

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