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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 03:03pm on 10/01/2012
Oh, then pass. I don't play weak twos (maybe I should as all the cool kids do, but we've been playing strong twos for years).
 
posted by [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com at 03:06pm on 10/01/2012
Ah right.
 
posted by [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com at 03:18pm on 10/01/2012
Or a preemptive 3, if you have _enough_ clubs.
 
posted by [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com at 03:23pm on 10/01/2012

I still can't play strong twos. It's all about who taught you and the habits you've formed.

OTOH, weak twos won us a duplicate contract and put us in second place for a tournament years ago - because we're not afraid to bid a minor suit if it's great, we wound up in the contract that makes the slam and no one else did - they all stayed with the major on principle. Which only made 5.
 
posted by [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com at 04:33pm on 10/01/2012
I think weak twos are probably useful (if you have a strong 2C bid, I think you can usually open a strong suit bid with that, and then use weak 2 bids to prevent your opponent making partscores and games), but I think for casual play it's probably much better to stick to what you're used to.
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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 04:44pm on 10/01/2012
Acol-style strong twos (as used here) are somewhat weaker (and therefore more common) than a 2C hand.
 
posted by [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com at 05:34pm on 10/01/2012
Sorry, I didn't mean to say every strong 2 could be translated into a strong 2C, but rather most people don't seem to feel the lack of an intermediate level between "ok to open at the one level" and "open as 2C" if they're playing weak 2s.

Reminding myself from google, it looks your system is very much based on standard acol, even when it wasn't what I expected (I was nominally taught ACOL for a little, but now I'm much more familiar with the specifics of what SGO and UBC people play, and no longer really remember any of the details), so anything I don't understand I shouldn't attribute to you :)
 
posted by [identity profile] robert-jones.livejournal.com at 09:49pm on 10/01/2012
I usually play 2C as indicating an ACOL 2 in any suit, and 2D as indicating an ACOL 2C, leaving 2H and 2S free to be weak bids. This is called Benjamin, and seemed to be hugely popular among club players a few years ago.

I think strong 2s are more natural, and therefore simpler to learn, though.

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