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posted by [staff profile] denise at 03:15pm on 15/04/2009
[staff profile] denise has been a speed-reader since she was about two. ;)

If you're curious about business matters, by the way, check out [site community profile] dw_biz. [staff profile] mark and I have the advantage of years of having worked in Web 2.0, and specifically on LJ, so we went into this knowing exactly what it would cost and what we would need to be sustainable, and did our models thusly. If we can hit and maintain a 5% paid account rate, we're in the black; anything over & above is going to let us do really awesome things.

LJ didn't add ads because they were hurting for money; Six Apart was trying to get rich, and now SUP is trying to recoup the vastly inflated purchase price they paid for the property. A while back, I wrote a series of essays about why advertising is bad for social media that I should clean up and post to [site community profile] dw_biz.
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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 03:21pm on 15/04/2009
A useful skill :-)

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you were a pair of numpties with no idea of what you were letting yourselves in for! Thank you for the comment, though.

Do you have any definite plans wrt future permanent account sales, OOI?
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posted by [staff profile] denise at 03:32pm on 15/04/2009
We are almost certainly not going to do perm sales again. We hate that we even have to on launch, but we want to make sure we have the first years' operating expenses in the bank up front for safety's sake.

Perm sales are bad for the users, because they wind up feeling "hey, they already have my money, why should they care about what I say?" and bad for the business, because it privileges short-term revenue over long-term sustainability. So we really don't want to do it again if we don't have to. We may do one more sale when we move to colocation, if we're making enough to support the business but not enough to do the capital outlay of the colo, but I'd really like to avoid it if at all possible.
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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 03:34pm on 15/04/2009
Shucks. I really like permanent accounts (though completely take the point that they're not great for the business).
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posted by [staff profile] denise at 03:46pm on 15/04/2009
Yeah, they are convenient for the user in some ways, and I'm pretty sure we could sell a lot more than 400 of them, but we don't want to risk it. We're really designing for the long term here, and we'd rather make sure that things are sustainable.

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