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posted by [identity profile] didiusjulianus.livejournal.com at 07:41pm on 13/03/2008
I'm not really interrogating, I was just interested to see what your values were on these related issues. (Not related to the poll, but to some of your later comments).

I'm not aiming to pass judgement at all, just to point out that someone who doesn't fall over backwards to care hugely about the precise seasonality of, mostly, luxury items isn't necessarily one of these people who couldn't care less and is massively damaging the planet due to their food shopping habits, which is what I felt you were saying with some of your previous answers (to me, and to other people). You sounded extremely critical and jumped to many conclusions.

I completely agree that doing things bit by bit is valuable. Every little bit helps. And sensible, since a radical overhaul of a lifestyle isn't as easy as it sounds, as you have implied. The point I want to make is, that not everyone will be doing it bit by bit in the same order or with the same emphases as you. For example, I've got a limited budget, and young mouths to get at least 5 a day into, and therefore neither the in-season-ness of apples & cucucmber, or the air travel of bananas (all popular here and good for lunchboxes) nor the seasonality of duck (can't afford it, except for an annual treat when it's on special offer), are as high on my agenda as they might be on yours, but other things might be higher on mine than yours.
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posted by [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com at 11:26pm on 13/03/2008
someone who doesn't fall over backwards to care hugely about the precise seasonality of, mostly, luxury items

Oh for crying out loud. The point was that somebody who was taking part in a debate on seasonality of foods seemed to be arguing that fruit was "seasonal" if it was "in season abroad", which was making a nonsense of the terms of the debate.

I don't expect people to "fall over backwards to care" about anything; most people don't care about most things. I was, and still am, baffled at the sheer number of people whose response to the question seemed to be "how/why on earth would I know when fruit grow?", not because of their reasons or otherwise for caring or not caring but because I'm just amazed that it's possible to get to the age of 30 or thereabouts and not realised that "to every thing there is a season".

not everyone will be doing it bit by bit in the same order or with the same emphases as you

Yes, I KNOW THAT. And the question of priorities wasn't in any way my point, or even something I was interested in debating, until you charged in with "so have you ever bought something non-local? Are you perfect? ARE YOU? You BUY THINGS! BURN THE WITCH!" and for some reason I bothered to defend myself against drive-by tosspottery.

For example, I've got a limited budget, and young mouths to get at least 5 a day into

Oh, stop it, you're breaking my heart.

other things might be higher on mine than yours

Yes, yes. You win at green. Happy now?
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posted by [identity profile] didiusjulianus.livejournal.com at 10:36am on 14/03/2008
I'm quite comfortable in my approach to the whole thing, so maybe the issue is your comfort with *your* approach to it. You're starting to rant irrationally for no apparent reason that I can see (other than "chip on shoulder" about some aspect of it?), so I am taking no further part in the discussion after this post. It's been interesting though overall, and I shall perhaps spend the summer pointing out the seasonality of the work going on around us (for the kids) just in case it is something we've skipped over a bit too much at our house (and I mean that genuinely, not sarcastically, none of my posts were sarcastic).
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