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posted by [identity profile] mike taylor at 12:39am on 04/07/2014
It seems beyond petty to say that a story is "well-worth reading" and then rank it below No Award.

Wakulla Springs qualified for the ballot. It is a compelling story, well-written, and unique.

If it doesn't fit your narrow definition of what is -- or isn't -- science fiction, then by all means, don't vote it #1. But IMHO, you dishonor the Hugos by saying that no award at all is preferable to a even recognizing a very good story.
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posted by [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com at 09:28am on 04/07/2014
Hm. I have a fairly broad definition of science fiction -- eg. I'm happy to include science-based or science-fiction based stories that are not speculative, or other stories which are likely to appeal to science fiction readers. I've not read WS yet, so I don't know if I'd count it, though I think I probably would.

But I also think it's logical that _if_ a story falls outside your definition of SFF, you don't want it to get the hugo award. There's no point to the hugo award if it's just "the best books in any genre".
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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 12:40pm on 04/07/2014
Thanks for your contribution, but I'm going to disagree.

I don't think that as a voter I'm obliged to do anything other than voting for what I think should win; there's no specified criteria I'm supposed to judge a work against. Indeed, the only guideline is that the award is for SF and Fantasy works.

So, I think I'm entitled to say both "I'm voting The Chaplain's Legacy above SGSW, even though the latter is more technically accomplished, because the former was more emotionally involving", and "I won't vote for Wakulla Springs even though it's a good story because I think it shouldn't win an award for SF/Fantasy".

As a side point, I've been trying to avoid hearing about which works have been "ballot-stuffed", because I want to judge the works on their merits. But I think people who hold that "ballot-stuffed entries shouldn't win" are entitled to that opinion, and to vote accordingly.
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posted by [identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com at 12:58pm on 04/07/2014
SF/Fantasy

I feel obliged to say "/horror" here :-)

I really liked Wakulla Springs but the actual SFnal content was tiny and felt awkwardly shoe-horned in. OTOH I'd be very happy to call it "related". My current inclination is to put it above No Award but only just (NB I am putting ballot-stuffers below No Award), so that leaves Wakulla Springs as 3rd). I may go higher though, I'm not sure.
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